By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. After the defeat of the allied armies in the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg in 1940 and the British evacuation of their forces from Dunkirk to England, the French front collapsed. If they opt to encourage non-interference, success will give them a stability boost. You need to have a high war score in order to pull off this strategy. This Franco-British Union will continue the fight against the Germans until victory is achieved. Next I declared war against france they had 400 divions compared to my 200 however they stacked them all on Maginot Line so I just held a fallback line while 140 divions went around the line and then capitulated them easily next was the UK not hard once you land in the UK you can take them out easy. It is a rather good air force, but it will need to be significantly strengthened before the war starts. The Habsburg Sub-branch However, if the UK refuses to let Germany have Sudetenland, France can either opt to stay out of the conflict (which will cancel their guarantees of Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia) or they can reaffirm their support (if the UK is not in a faction already but France is in one, the UK is added to France's faction and vice-versa; however, if both France and the UK are in separate factions, then France will guarantee Czechoslovakia). Our industry will be back to full capacity and it is unlikely we will have strikes anytime soon. Try to annex all coastal states as the Allies will not annex any states that they cannot reach. Lastly, it is also possible to take advantage of several random events to increase Communist support high enough and flip France to communism, allowing them to manually justify war goals on Belgium, Luxemburg and the Netherlands and annex them, then progress down the Democratic branch of the National Focus tree and drift back to Democracy and form the EU. I just want to write down what happened to my first game. Civilian to Military Factory conversion cost: This page was last edited on 23 February 2023, at 01:36. Their children go hungry and even though [Root.GetCommunistParty] are urging them to continue the strike, they do not possess the resources to continue. He later moved on to Morgan Stanley's Moscow office. I guess that just means I cannot attack an commies without taking daddy russia out first. Feel that something is missing in this article? WW2 started over a French civil war. Using his extensive powers, Ptain effectively abolished the Third French Republic and replaced it with the "French State" (French: tat Franais) or the "French Nation (French: Nation Franais)colloquially known as Vichy France (French: Rgime de Vichy)a unitary authoritarian dictatorship. Very odd diplomatic game - France declared war on Germany in April 1939, just days after the Polish rejection of alliance, and after that, everybody pretty much forgot about Mitteleuropa, it seems. and our If you're playing Germany, you can kill fascist countries without any interference from the Allies or Comintern thoughonce world tension is too high, just kill Italy and Spain, and start raising fascist support in other target countries. How to prevent this? Note that Japan invading China increases WT quite a bit so if you are playing historical, plan for that. Whilst few would doubt that Monsieur Daladier has been a fine prime minister, he simply could not contend with the extraordinary set of circumstances in which France has found herself. The USA sometimes doesn't join in when controlled by an AI because someone at paradox removed the focus to give the US a war goal on Germany in the new focus tree, nor is there an event where the AI will always go for war with Japan or Germany. Significant rivers include the river Rhine between France and German Reich, Le Rhne to the southeast, La Seine to the northwest, La Loire which runs through the center, and La Garonne which runs in the southwest. If we agree to their request, we are effectively signing over control of Indochina to them. Interactive corporate website, Can declare war on country of the same ideology group without a war goal, No National Spirit. The UK and France will start guaranteeing independence at WT 25%. That would either be when world tension is too low (below 25% democracies cannot guarantee), or when they have too many guarantees already (each guarantee costs 25PP more than the last, so if you trick them into guaranteeing many nations it'll become harder and costlier for them to guarantee even more). In a historical scenario, Italy fulfills a support role to the German Reich, allowing the Axis to contest control of the Mediterranean and North Africa. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Paris has fallen into German hands, and it is only a matter of time before the rest of the country is occupied. It is possible to declare on minors without the allies interfering. As France, complete the "Little Entente" National Focus, and have all German cores owned by you or someone in your faction. If Germany does back down in response to either instance, not only will the Rhineland remain demilitarized, but it will also give them a negative debuff that will lock off Anschluss for 1 year (additionally, when Germany does go to war, this will mean that the Rhineland will be unprotected by German troops for a while). Vichy France will start off with the following economy laws: Vichy France will also retain whatever industry and resources that end up within its zone of jurisdiction (the rest will end up under German occupation). In the wake of the French armistice with Germany and establishment of a new government in Vichy France, a group of senior officers have rebelled against the new French government. This is a list of all France's events (from /Hearts of Iron IV/events/France.txt). Information, Frequently Asked The French government was allowed to remain in power, but its effective jurisdiction was limited to the unoccupied "Free Zone" in southern France constituting roughly 45% of France's pre-war metropolitan territory. However, if Germany has restored the Kaiser, they will instead establish Bourbon France, although unlike what happens if France manually restores the monarchy, this Bourbon France will not have a king in charge (France will also become Bourbon France if they become a puppet of a non-aligned government). and our Forget the past and look to new horizons. You can always invade them anyway later, I like to take out Nationalist Spain as Italy right after the civil war sometimes, because nobody protects them. Then took out Canada and America then the rest surrenderd since they were all small countries. After my last Vichy post Spain (Who was in the allies) had the bright idea of declaring war on me. However, Yugoslavia is one of the three pillars on which the Eastern European settlement is built. on Paradox technology, Legal Since every war/annexion/justification will increase world tension, it's simply impossible for you to keep world tension low enough to invade Europe as a whole without angering the allies at some point. (Hidden) AI values for the Spanish Civil War, https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=French_events&oldid=54247, Play Subscribe- https://www.youtube.com/c/ManiaGin?sub_confi. French political parties are increasingly calling for the establishment of a provisional government and a general election. France has 74 divisions in 1936, but many of those are colonial divisions with only six infantry battalions, and their armored divisions are basically brigades: France relies on the heavy fortifications at the border to Germany, the Maginot Line to defend them. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. They also have focuses to form their own faction with Czechoslovakia and invite Yugoslavia and Romania to form the Little Entente - if they do form the Little Entente, they can also take additional focuses to invite the United Kingdom and Poland to the Entente. If Germany goes down it's historic tree, France can opt to mobilize in response to the remilitarization of the Rhineland (taking this decision has a steep cost in political power and stability; note that they can only object if Germany completes the Focus Rhineland; if Germany remilitarizes the Rhineland by going to war, France cannot object). Questions, Paradox To the Northeast in the region of Alsace-Lorraine lies the small Vosges mountain range and the huge river Rhine, which makes up the natural border with German Reich. Be sure to kick Czechoslovakia out of the faction before Sudetenland as otherwise you will end up in a war with Germany too early. Capital: Luxemburg. Britain has agreed to merge our two nations into one. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. >_>. Many of these designs are clearly aimed against an anti-surface role, prioritizing fast, lightly-armored ships with minimal ASW capability and strong scouting capabilities. 1.4K. Once you get the news article detailing that their has been a royal marriage between Brazil and Portugal you can move on. We can but pray there is light at the end of the tunnel. Though you probably can still winUK is spread so thin they likely won't get any significant number of divisions in France before they diethen proceed as normal. 66. We are invited to Matignon for negotiations. If playing on multiplayer with a player-controlled Soviet Union, one method is to have them join the war and have them declare on the Benelux countries - as this will drag them into the Axis, they can be taken into the peace deal. When these new defenses are finished, the Italians would have to be mad to cross the border! If they opt to interfere, however, they will unlock a series of decisions - said decisions will boost war support; after getting war support to a certain level, France can opt to intervene directly in the Spanish Civil War. 'Our request to join Britain as Allies has been accepted. If Germany is Fascist, they will establish Vichy France. View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. Their heartland in Europe is rich; almost half of Africa is under their control, and they have colonies in Indochina, Syria, and Guyana, not to mention direct control of islands in all the oceans of the world. These are the results. Turn off historical and hope they form little entente. Having emerged victorious from the Great War, the army has developed a dangerously complacent attitude which causes strategic developments to come slowly and with some reluctance. Japan and other Asian countries asked to join my faction and join the war which helped since it caused russia to stack some of their forces on their eastrn front which helped my war with them even more. Has completed focus Army Reform France can form the European Union if Democratic, and if they have , can also form the Kingdom of Franco-Spain if they go Legitimist and Spain also goes Carlist (on historical, the Carlists will almost never spawn if the player is not in charge of Spain and will only spawn on historical if Franco does not secure the North in time; unlike with Spain, France can form the Kingdom of Franco-Spain even if Spain has a different king) - if Spain was to obtain any other cores, France would also gain said cores (Gibraltar if the UK decolonizes or Spain forms Iberia, and any Portuguese cores gained by Spain as a result of forming Iberia - this can include Brazil, Angola, and Mozambique if Portugal was able to core those territories). My prosecution of the war went no different, if slower but still well ahead of the "Go with Britain" focus. Join. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. On April 1st, 1937, with WT at 28%, well below the 50% threshold for them to autojoin the allies and almost 7 months before they could join by focusthey out of nowhere join the allies, dragging the UK into my war. Similarly, France can act differently in response to German demands for Sudetenland than the UK; if the UK agrees to let Germany have the Sudetenland, the French can either agree with the UK, which will also cancel their guarantee on Yugoslavia, or refuse to go along with the UK and form a faction with Czechoslovakia. If played correctly, the Second World War (and any other conflicts before 1948) could very well see France reborn and reshaped and emerge from the crucible of war as the far bigger and stronger European Union. The problem with fielding a modern army will be expanding France's production base, which is both extremely limited and faced with the prospect of crippling manpower shortages in the very near future in 1936. Examples of alternative division template names for France include: France has 1 Carrier(CV), 5 Battleships(BB), 7 Heavy Cruisers(CA), 7 Light Cruisers(CL), 52 Destroyers(DD) and 63 Submarines(SS) at the start, and boasts a somewhat modern - if badly understrength - fleet. They will, however, also be shouldered with the heavy occupation costs levied by the Germans. ( they discussed it on chat) Turkey capped and the Turkey player started raging. Should an aggressive adversary like Germany threaten its heartland, France is unlikely to be willing to sustain defensive efforts that could see the entire country devastated. [From.GetLeader] has refused to join the alliance, perhaps doubting our motives, or perhaps being concerned that aligning too closely with us would make them a target. The player can also expect production to be reduced by the "Inefficient Economy" national spirit. For more information, please see our This thread is archived . Gets event Protests descend into violence, Has completed focus Confirm Eastern Commitments Eventually I got dragged completely into the War and now Half of Europe, Japan, some of India, the USA, and a few more is at war with the UK (now commie), USSR, Yugoslavia (Tito got stomped already), Australia, etc., etc., etc.. It also allows Poland to gain colonial holdings in Liberia or Madagascar. The British government is unwilling to antagonize Germany further, and will not jeopardize the current peace. Germany heads the axis so I doubt that they could join the allies. Good. Whilst the Marine Nationale is strong enough to decisively defeat either the Kriegsmarine or the Regia Marina alone, it would have no chance against a combined Axis fleet. Vichy France will gain control of a portion of the French forces but it is not possible to predict what divisions Vichy France will get. Press J to jump to the feed. What I just did was go to war with poland instantly and then stacked against the Soviet Union. After our defeat we are really in no condition to contest it. This will greatly reduce the output of our factories and is viewed as a victory for [Root.GetCommunistParty]. Even off of historical, Britain, France, and Czechoslovakia have a >90% chance to let Germany have the Sudentenland. The below description is one of several available for this event.Germany has acceded to Italian demands for our territory. on Paradox technology, Legal I had expected the UK to invite me to the Allies and, by extension, the war in Europe + Africa. France has a number of unique names and appearances for various technologies and equipment, listed here. Press J to jump to the feed. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Thankfully, HOI4 will give. But then the turkey player kicked Greece out of faction so the does not end. Vichy France is a country in Europe that is neither releasable nor formable and is instead created through an event chain which will start if Germany defeats France (allied to the United Kingdom) in a war. Messages 2.247; Similarly, if Germany overthrows Hitler and opts to restore the Kaiser, France can raise an objection to the Return of Kaiser Wilhelm II (the AI will usually limit it's response based on how much tension Germany has generated); similar to Rhineland, the UK can opt to support or not support France, and Germany can either choose to continue ahead or compromise and instead install Wilhelm III as Kaiser; this will give them a similar debuff, but unlike the Rhineland Challenge Met debuff, none of Germany's focuses will be blocked. With the end of the war, the need to maintain a close union with the French nation is also passing. Dozens of runs where this early war against France goes off without a hitch, I change one thing, one insignificant thing and out of nowhere it all goes to hell. By default, they can only intervene on the side of the Republicans, but should they change ideologies, France can instead opt to intervene on the side of the Nationalists, the Carlists, the Falangists, or the Communists. However, their government is divided, with Communist influences threatening to weaken it further. Early to mid 1937 is about the time they join, they should get rid of their guarantees. Once Italy falls, be sure to quickly capitulate Germany before the Allies are able to do that. As France, have at least 150 Destroyers and research the maximum torpedo launcher technology, before 1945. Interestingly, the way these decisions are coded make it entirely possible for a Fascist France to intervene on the side of Republican Spain and also drag the Axis in. We are in the enviable position of having very low unemployment, partially because of the massive bloodshed of the Great War. Vichy France's zone of jurisdiction is initially limited to the following states within Metropolitan France: In addition to these, Vichy France will also gain control of most of France's colonial empire (Free France will gain control of French Guyana and a handful of other island territories). Peace must always be the goal of any democratic nation. With the collapse of the Third Republic and the refusal of the German government to offer an Armistice, it must fall to fresh leadership to continue the fight from the colonies. At the end of its National Focus tree, however, it will receive the choice between joining the Axis, defecting to the Allies, or starting down on the path towards creating a Latin Entente with Italy, Spain and Portugal. The greeks and the turks joined the Axis and the polish finally annexed Romania and put troops all over my border and sent the ultimatum i accepted it because I did not want to be crushed. On the other hand, we don't exactly have the means to fight them on this issue. France is a major power in 1936, one of the winners of the Great War, and in control of a globe-spanning empire. Has completed focus Infantry Tanks Barbarossa has not kicked off yet. Any time a country that is part of a faction attacks another country, the defending country will join an opposing faction. However, poor naval infrastructure and low shipbuilding priority means that constructing a large modern fleet is not easy, and in fact can often be counter-productive in that it denies vital raw materials from tank and motorized production. Starting off with only one province, it is the tiniest nation in the game. are there anyways to stop france from joining the allies . However, this has made it difficult for companies to find skilled workers, and the military finds it hard to compete with the labor market for recruits. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Regardless of what Vichy France gets, it will usually only be left with a few leftover fragments of the previous french military and will thus have to rebuild it. The British government has dismissed any possibility of merging our two nations into one. HOWEVER, if the "GER_has_started_war" flag has been set, Britain and France will always back up Czechoslovakia off of historical. France starts with four National Spirits in Man the Guns and more in La Rsistance: With the Man the Guns expansion enabled, France starts with an additional national spirit: Victors of the Great War can be removed by completing the Army Reform focus at the bottom of the Begin Rearmament branch. 5 glamscum 5 yr. ago France can form the European Union through a decision if it is democratic and controls the requisite territories (those being all of its own starting core states a well as the starting core states of Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. A way for Vichy to become the "legitimate" France and even potentially join the Allies; A way to have Free France gain territories that were assigned to Vichy France when the whole thing was created, without bringing them into the war . Albania Austria Belgium Bulgaria Czechoslovakia Denmark Estonia Finland France Free France Vichy France German Reich Kingdom of Greece Kingdom of Hungary Ireland Italy Latvia Lithuania Luxembourg Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Nationalist Spain Republican Spain Romania Slovakia Soviet Union Sweden Switzerland Turkey Republic of Ukraine United Kingdom Yugoslavia, Dominion of Canada Costa Rica Cuba Dominican Republic El Salvador Guatemala Haiti Honduras Mexico Nicaragua Panama United States, Argentina Bolivia Brazil Chile Colombia Ecuador Paraguay Peru Uruguay Venezuela, Afghanistan Bhutan British Malaya British Raj China Communist China Dutch East Indies Guangxi Clique Iran Iraq Japan Manchukuo Mengkukuo Mongolia Nepal Oman Philippines Saudi Arabia Shanxi Siam Sinkiang Tannu Tuva Tibet Xibei San Ma Yemen Yunnan, Angola Sultanate of Aussa Botswana Kingdom of Egypt Ethiopia Liberia South Africa, Australia Melanesian Federation New Zealand Tahiti. At world tension above 50% you can expect any nation you attack to always seek to join a faction of the same ideology OR willing to go at war with you, if one exists. The only thing I did differently was I tried out superior firepower and all leg infantry rather than mobile warfare and tanks. In 1936, its navy is its strongest asset, with an average-at-best land army and modest colonial empire. As for the military, Vichy France's military situation is a bit unpredictable, as Vichy France is only created if France is capitulated by Germany, which will cause the majority of the French military to be dismantled. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. becuase fighting england as germany is just a chore. When formed, Vichy France will inherit all technology previously researched by France. France starts 1939 with a small, but modern air force. Thinking their chances poor regardless, Germany gambled on a decisive victory by sending Panzer divisions through Luxembourg and the Ardennes' forested hills, terrain which the French supreme commander Gamelin thought unable to sustain tank movements. France starts outside of the Allies at the start of 1936, but has options to join later. You really can't, you have to fight the allies in like 1940-1941 if you want to not play passive. If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. With the French military teetering on the brink of collapse, the French government (having been evacuated from Paris to first to Tours, then to Bordeaux) concluded a ceasefire and subsequent armistice with Germany, effectively surrendering the whole country. (Note: "GER_has_started_war" is set when Germany declares war on another nation for the first time) If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. As Fascist France or Vichy France, occupy all of Great Britain. If the allies are already at war, but not against you, the nations you attack are likely to try and join them but depending one who you play and what's your relation with the allies, they may be reluctant to join the war, especially if you're co-belligerent. After that you probably improve relations and stuff and sooner or later if they dont invite you during peace you should be able to join if theyre at war 1 More posts you may like r/hoi4 Join 3 days ago Hoi4s total War problem 208 37 r/hoi4 Join 13 days ago Yippee. Cookie Notice The Vichy regime would remain in place from its inception in 1940 to 1944, during which it attempted to carry out a series of social/societal transformation programs named the "National Revolution" and "National Regeneration". Tho if they hate you they'll be eager instead. This is a community maintained wiki. With each passing day workers are caving and return to the factories. De Gaulle effectively assumes leadership of the Free French Forces and continues the fight against the Germans. Communists and far-right extremist leagues are always ready to resort to violence to advance their political cause.
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